tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post8394898911356470469..comments2024-02-18T23:27:55.993-06:00Comments on the Madness of the Combat Medic: What Goes Around Comes AroundThe Mad Medichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16227573604389667896noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-90681226873866584822012-02-16T07:54:20.559-06:002012-02-16T07:54:20.559-06:00Hey Doc, good job. Never mind the ignorant a-holes...Hey Doc, good job. Never mind the ignorant a-holes that feel that speaking out is okay even if its slander, or at least that slander supports their cause. Now if we used slander to speak out against those calling for the heads of the military, and we used lies their would be a lynch mob. They like to take isolated incidents and blow them up too, I have been overseas as both a Corpsmen and a Flight Medic, and I never pissed on a dead guy, or the various other crimes we have all been accused of. Brother they will believe what they want to believe as the truth because they do not want to be challenged, and have no idea what sacrifice really is.Extreme Middlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17665824400119790397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-54583646246176384122012-02-13T23:15:37.599-06:002012-02-13T23:15:37.599-06:00You can't have differing perspectives on FACTS...You can't have differing perspectives on FACTS. Either the American military is gleefully gunning down kids or they're not. It isn't something that one guy "feels" or "perceives" and another guy doesn't.<br />If something DIDN'T happen, the other guy's views can't "differ" if they live in reality. <br /><br />Keep talking, Doc. There is good, bad and ugly. What is TRUE is what matters. <br />BooRadleyDeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04005831428871504837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-3430576758184643752012-02-13T21:51:38.632-06:002012-02-13T21:51:38.632-06:0011C: You know I probably stomped the same ground....11C: You know I probably stomped the same ground. Did you ever have to do the Khole Khole Run? MAN that sucked. <br /><br />Anon (what number are we on now?) well we could talk about the 360 degree fire, or we could talk about when he used a shotgun on a random person (bet you didn't get that from him) we could also talk about him going to schools with "not your soldiers" and showing them gruesome pictures and telling horror stories (if any of the videos I've seen are true, MUCH inflated) to get them to "resist" the recruiters because, really the military is BAAAD. I've actually been trying to compile as many things he released as possible. <br /><br />SINCE i don't have unlimited time on my hands (I DO have to work, and go to school ya know) I'm relying mostly on my fellow soldiers to do as much leg work as possible. <br /><br />I will say that one of his battle buddies that was pretty close to him has told me some really disturbing things about his behavior. I'm trying to get him to write down as much as possible. Check back later I suppose.The Mad Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16227573604389667896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-83429186691414915472012-02-13T20:46:09.590-06:002012-02-13T20:46:09.590-06:00You don't agree with McCord's POV on the w...You don't agree with McCord's POV on the war, I get that. But where and when has EM ever "dragged soldiers names through the mud?" Can you reference that, some time when he said such-and-such soldier did this thing wrong? Where are the "slanderous lies" you speak of? Those are some very strong charges you keep leveling, but you never seem to have a specific example. Sooner or later people are going to notice that you're just bashing the hell out of this guy because he has a different opinion than you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-81205510452915361562012-02-13T19:46:09.901-06:002012-02-13T19:46:09.901-06:00Doc,
There are many parallels between now and the...Doc,<br /><br />There are many parallels between now and the 70's. <br /><br />The main reason for the parallels is the same people that gave us the anti-war movement then are part of it today, but the arguments of then, don’t resonate now, they don’t get real traction. Same tactics won’t work in a different time. This time there is no strong general public out cry. The all volunteer force, 9/11 and no draft are part of it. No one finds it interesting the only ones seen screaming for a draft are the liberal side. Also the public can get different view points on the news. Plus a majority from my generation who didn’t serve (I use that word with reverence) are working hard not to treat the military the way they were treated then.<br /><br />The younger ones in the “movement” are trying to find something they have seen in the movies and on TV. The want to be the new love children. It seems they are always hoping they will find the new atrocity, Haditha is the new My Lai. Manning is the new Ellsberg. McCord is the new John Kerry at Winter Soldier, citing the killing of women and children. How many in the media want to be the next Cronkite calling the war is lost (after the enemy is decimated). <br /><br />They should of learned when tried to do a second Woodstock, it did work either. <br /><br />Point of context I joined the army in 1975 at 18 and was straight leg infantry, even then there was animosity by certain “persons”. I served all 4 years in the 1/19, 25 ID, and never had to go into combat. All my first NCOs were Nam Vets who taught me alot. I did get a quick trip to South Korea but mostly I kept Hawaii safe for surfing. And I do belive in Karma.11C2077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-3264999198530508712012-02-13T14:00:23.568-06:002012-02-13T14:00:23.568-06:00Anon5: maybe you ought to watch what he says again...Anon5: maybe you ought to watch what he says again. There is such a thing as not wanting to fight wars. Ant-war, is a different ball of wax. He has made it clear that 12 July is a daily thing that we're killing kids, in a callous way. He may through disclaimers out there, but the net effect is to suggest that there was a daily My Lai. <br /><br />As for the spitting on soldiers not representing the group as a whole. . . Well no it hasn't gotten to that point yet. But I would strongly argue that the late 60's and early 70's that <i>was</i> what the majority of the Anti-war movement felt. The current anti-war movement is <i>very</i> careful to be respectful, but if you let them get a full head of steam. . . they'll say what they <i>really</i> think about Soldiers.The Mad Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16227573604389667896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-84430784370774716972012-02-13T09:28:52.068-06:002012-02-13T09:28:52.068-06:00From what I've read from McCord, he has never ...From what I've read from McCord, he has never spoken badly about veterans or soldiers (at least, in general). I'm not sure about the specific people you're referring to, in terms of any claims he has made about them individually. While he does disagree with military policy, he's been very adamant that the soldiers themselves are good people who are putting their lives on the line for what they believe in. Being anti-war is not the same thing as hating soldiers. Anyone who spits on veterans, or in any way disrespects them simply based on the fact that they served in the military is ignorant. They don't, however, represent the views of people who question war as a whole, just as the Westboro Baptist Church bigots don't represent Christians as a whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-56979755974352950192012-02-12T23:26:13.928-06:002012-02-12T23:26:13.928-06:00Anon4: Bitter and mean. . . so wanting the truth t...Anon4: Bitter and mean. . . so wanting the truth to be heard, and not wanting him to drag the names of my fellow soldiers through the mud is not being bitter or mean. <br /><br />As for seeking help. Gee thanks. I really appreciate some random person commenting on my mental health. Also said person who obviously hasn't read my posts on the subject of mental health. but thanks for playing.The Mad Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16227573604389667896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-78704148058082521712012-02-12T21:58:29.057-06:002012-02-12T21:58:29.057-06:00how bitter and mean are you. Sounds like you bough...how bitter and mean are you. Sounds like you bought the war home with you buddy. Seek help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-75618895064911008492012-02-12T20:26:49.265-06:002012-02-12T20:26:49.265-06:00Anon 3: you really should go an look how many peop...Anon 3: you really should go an look how many people are confirming what I have to say before you get all glitzy eyed over your "hero"The Mad Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16227573604389667896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-25890231933294064432012-02-12T20:21:52.856-06:002012-02-12T20:21:52.856-06:00Well I've got trolls! YAY me! I'm really...Well I've got trolls! YAY me! I'm really making it. So Anon 1). I don't care about clout. I will say what I want to say, and it will be (to the best of my ability to make it so) truth. Philosophically and morally I do not believe in telling lies, nor aggrandizing myself. Further I would have no issue if McCord was telling the truth, or if he kept his opinions about operations in the appropriate debates and public forums. But he does not. Not your Soldiers is despicable! What they do is perverse and wrong, and that he has gleefully joined them should tell you the quality of his character. Further, yes there is a LOT more to war then you'll ever see. Not to put too fine a point on it but if you're constantly watching war porn you'd think every day is Tet '68. Even Tet '68 wasn't as remembered. When you show combat, unless you're there you can't possibly understand who was there why they're fighting and over what. There simply is no earthly way to provide the details you need to make an informed opinion about the realities of ground combat without ever having SEEN it. <br /><br />Argent: no I'd imagine not. But I do believe it is there. What you do always catches up to you. Both good (as illustrated above) and bad.<br /><br />Anon2: How popular <i>is</i> my blog? You know what I really don't care. You might miss this part, but I'm all for Vets airing out their issues. Indeed if you read my previous posts about PTSD, you might know that I feel every vet suicide is a tragedy. There is a support group second to none among Veterans. What McCord has done is turn his back on those same veterans and started spouting slanderous lies. That in and of itself wouldn't be bad if no one actually listened to him. But people are. You know in '73 almost 12% of the US population were veterans? That didn't stop people from spitting on them at SEATAC. we isolated a whole generation of veterans and forced them to go through their own personal hell. ALONE. right now there are about 1.5 Million Iraq or Afghanistan Veterans in America. the US population is about 305 Million. That's less than .5%. If you do the math, we are one of the smallest minorities in the US. It would be unbelievably easy to isolate us, and start up that whole mess again. People like McCord, are <i>trying</i> to make that happen. So I have to ask this: why <i>wouldn't</i> I oppose him?The Mad Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16227573604389667896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-1706029309990865222012-02-12T20:17:47.972-06:002012-02-12T20:17:47.972-06:00Hmm sounds like these things have been said by MOR...Hmm sounds like these things have been said by MORE than just Ethan. Oh wait they must be lying too...and all shitbags? What's with the attacks on just him?? It doesn't make sense...<br /> http://www.thenation.com/article/38034/wikileaks-baghdadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-21208687621259599462012-02-12T19:54:40.036-06:002012-02-12T19:54:40.036-06:00Guys, I wasn't anywhere near Michael's uni...Guys, I wasn't anywhere near Michael's unit, however I have seen enough of the Truth to know that Ethan McCord is a fraudulent sack of shit. In and of itself, his "opinions" are not what will be his downfall, but the lies he tells of the military in general, and the incidents of the 2-16 specifically. To me, and I'm sure others, the ilk he has taken to surrounding himself with is the icing on the cake that he is a true Blue Falcon. There is a strong difference between true issues being brought to light and blatant lies. He has long since crossed the lone into nothing but lies.Ryannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-39807151738837655512012-02-12T18:29:55.556-06:002012-02-12T18:29:55.556-06:00So the tagline of your blog is that you can air ou...So the tagline of your blog is that you can air out anything, yet when other vets air out what's on their minds and it actually happens to resonate with people, then the fact that they are listened to (ie. become "darlings") makes them wrong? By that logic, how popular will you allow your blog to get until you become a darling yourself?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-8395683576513452752012-02-12T18:08:16.471-06:002012-02-12T18:08:16.471-06:00I think as you continue life you'll discover t...I think as you continue life you'll discover this karma-like thing doesn't work quite as straightforward as that.Argenthttp://positiveentertainment.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-903369978904506414.post-6015081928566395322012-02-12T14:19:35.973-06:002012-02-12T14:19:35.973-06:00You had some clout until you started to bring down...You had some clout until you started to bring down a fellow soldier who has as much right as you do to speak out about his experiences. Just because his views differ with yours that is no reason to say the things that you have. I feel sad that you cannot honor the bravery that it has taken for Ethan McCord and Manning to speak out, it took guts and you know it. There is more to that war than ever met the eye of the public and it's about time it came to our attention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com